Subject	It's all about fuel availability.
Posted by	bartz32tt on November 19, 2015 at 4:26 PM
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In Reply To	Re: Stock turbos on a VG making 580 whp and 600 ft lbs torque posted by ouikikazz on November 19, 2015 at 12:58 PM
Message	Before E85 became widely available, this kind of build would've previously been unrealistic for everyday driving, since it would've required a very knock-resistent fuel to take full advantage of the high compression. Folks have tried in the past to slap turbos onto an NA block, but they couldn't get beyond ~450whp before knocking or catastrophic failure on pump gas. E85 is very much a game-changer in this regard. ________________Sig Separator________________________ ATTN: Zuberman The above message is not sponsored by my employer. Selling used ACT full-face sprung clutch kit: $300 + shipping ConUS! Chrome "boost" hardpipes and couplers/clamps $100 + shipping Twin Turbo aluminum front calipers: $200 + shipping. Needs paint or will paint red for additional $50 Parting out my entire 1990 twin turbo! Please email me for needed parts! See profile for my WTB/WTT list as well.
Follow Ups	Stock turbos on a VG making 580 whp and 600 ft lbs torque - ztunerz 00:10:34 11/16/15 Re: Stock turbos on a VG making 580 whp and 600 ft lbs torque - Andre1038 00:15:18 11/16/15 Do you happen to have a graph with rpm instead of mph? - Evan(CA) 00:24:26 11/16/15 Re: Do you happen to have a graph with rpm instead of mph? - ztunerz 00:54:42 11/16/15 Awesome torque at 3500RPM. (n/m) - MixManMash 02:46:16 11/16/15 It is awesome, but also similar to Jame's on the SZ site. - not4resaleZ 12:53:16 11/16/15 sorry...James' (n/m) - not4resaleZ 15:50:09 11/16/15 Wow! The torque comes so early that should be a ton of fun. - Boosted1 05:55:40 11/16/15 2nd... hmmm I have a spare NA engine - vorpalZ 09:34:52 11/16/15 you have to run really low timing in the midrange on 93 FYI - ztunerz 10:22:35 11/16/15 You need TT heads. And then E85 which we do not :( (n/m) - MixManMash 13:27:20 11/16/15 we have Q16 & VP 109... and I hear NA heads are better... - vorpalZ 13:48:38 11/16/15 i would like to see actual data to support these claims. - michaell32 (FL) 14:27:41 11/16/15 Do it! I would like to know the answer too.... - ConVerTT 15:55:24 11/16/15 Great work! Nice shape to both of those curves too! (n/m) - ConVerTT 08:31:54 11/16/15 My block has unusually hi compression and E85 got me 620whp - ForceFedTT (SoCal) 00:27:15 11/16/15 So awesome! - Bigwill837 06:32:17 11/16/15 Andrew and Harry you guys truely do amazing work (n/m) - SpfldZ 07:05:34 11/16/15 93 octane was 415 whp at 12-13 psi. Thats wastegate - michaell32 (FL) 07:21:14 11/16/15 Re: 93 octane was 415 whp at 12-13 psi. Thats wastegate - Bigwill837 10:04:02 11/16/15 when i get a better boost controller ill see what i can - michaell32 (FL) 10:41:27 11/16/15 Re: when i get a better boost controller ill see what i can - Bigwill837 12:25:45 11/16/15 still using the blitz boost controller? - L£AÐZX 13:57:36 11/16/15 I have the profec b spec 2 but i bought it - michaell32 (FL) 14:22:24 11/16/15 WOW!! This is a great setup! - hunterg 07:38:04 11/16/15 I recommend against that. - bartz32tt 11:03:29 11/16/15 actually I agree with your statement. I would run - ztunerz 22:00:33 11/16/15 Yeah, but he is trying it with Sport 500s and not stockers. (n/m) - MixManMash 11:49:10 11/17/15 Regardless, Sport 500s will suffer the same fate. (n/m) - bartz32tt 16:47:34 11/17/15 Re: What about 530bbs? (n/m) - EZdusit (cali) 21:47:36 11/17/15 that would be fun (n/m) - ztunerz 23:01:07 11/17/15 Really depends - bartz32tt 06:55:26 11/18/15 wtf (n/m) - WhiTTe Z 08:04:57 11/16/15 post up the uncorrected graph... (n/m) - volcomstone550 08:24:01 11/16/15 Re: post up the SAEcorrected graph... (n/m) - volcomstone550 08:30:03 11/16/15 better yet... do you have the WinPEP runfile? (n/m) - vorpalZ 09:25:01 11/16/15 maybe once the "others" start posting uncorrected graphs i - ztunerz 10:26:54 11/16/15 Right? - JDAVE 00:18:53 11/17/15 back off - not refering to you anyway. Want to see nothing - ztunerz 21:49:01 11/17/15 C'mon Harry It takes more muscles to frown than smile;) - JDAVE 21:59:43 11/17/15 Very impressive! So this is with NA oil squirters? (n/m) - en5 08:35:49 11/16/15 lol... I see what you did there (n/m) - vorpalZ 09:25:25 11/16/15 I must have missed it, it was an honest question. - en5 14:40:10 11/16/15 Yes NA oil squirters. (n/m) - michaell32 (FL) 15:31:24 11/16/15 When i first posted the mod list some people were getting st - michaell32 (FL) 10:48:18 11/16/15 i remember reading NA wrist pins were weak vs TT. - Jiro 09:08:52 11/16/15 It has TT wrist pins (n/m) - ztunerz 10:52:13 11/16/15 Jeebus... - eriksu9 09:37:31 11/16/15 Lag is pretty much nonexistent. - michaell32 (FL) 10:38:17 11/16/15 After seeing how well this build went - Zvil (FL) 08:43:06 11/17/15 Ill let you drive mine so you can compare. - michaell32 (FL) 14:27:42 11/17/15 Re: Ill let you drive mine so you can compare. - BarryGZX 14:59:59 11/17/15 275/40/17 hankook ventus v4 (n/m) - michaell32 (FL) 15:36:32 11/17/15 TY, yeah there isnt much lag at all. I am thinking this - ztunerz 10:49:38 11/16/15 I'm thinking try Sport 500's due to the spool of the - not4resaleZ 12:58:25 11/16/15 Pump gas for those that wanted to know - ztunerz 10:59:17 11/16/15 Cool. Definitely looks similar to the newer 370Z with a - MixManMash 13:33:11 11/16/15 I was thinking the same thing. I like it! (n/m) - ConVerTT 16:18:35 11/16/15 Interesting ... Here is my pearl VerTT on 94... - ConVerTT 16:16:12 11/16/15 I meantion this years ago - diamond20601 00:54:50 11/17/15 Looks like you could run more boost. I just couldnt without - ztunerz 21:43:25 11/17/15 The low end torque and the linearity looks fantastic... - ConVerTT 09:41:50 11/18/15 ive made my mind up and im going to rebuild an na motor - michaell32 (FL) 16:43:40 11/18/15 Awesome! - ConVerTT 22:39:39 11/18/15 Thx! (n/m) - Bigwill837 19:59:50 11/16/15 Wow! Nice work guys! (n/m) - Dallas DamonZ 11:08:02 11/16/15 Amazing results!! - RobZ32 12:07:52 11/16/15 i was curious about this as well.... - ZWolf 13:14:22 11/17/15 holy crap - aliaZ 13:51:48 11/16/15 Two stock ecus. One for 93 and the other for e85. (n/m) - michaell32 (FL) 14:29:12 11/16/15 SZ map switcher - EngineerLV 17:46:44 11/16/15 Does the map switcher also flips - RZturbo 22:04:06 11/16/15 Manually, yes. - MixManMash 06:59:00 11/17/15 its not worth the money to me. - michaell32 (FL) 14:22:00 11/17/15 You can get a Moates Ostrich ROM emulator for under $200. - xpwarrior 16:50:08 11/17/15 Yes. Or the old school Moates TwoTimer if you just need two - ConVerTT 10:32:06 11/18/15 i can do a 2 tune switcher for less than 100 bux (n/m) - ztunerz 21:41:10 11/17/15 Nice! So can I. (n/m) - xpwarrior 22:00:59 11/17/15 Nice to see a "different" perspective :) (n/m) - ShakaShaun(Denver) 19:15:04 11/16/15 now that is a lovely torque profile (n/m) - LJZTT 23:38:45 11/16/15 Injector duty - WhiTTe Z 08:01:51 11/17/15 Agreed, given that this is E85 and not gasoline. (n/m) - MixManMash 09:33:27 11/17/15 The above I meant on E85, and don't recall the PSI - WhiTTe Z 11:49:55 11/17/15 higher fuel pressure? (n/m) - sfarrah 11:50:04 11/17/15 we wanted to log fuel pressure but forgot. - michaell32 (FL) 14:25:19 11/17/15 based on AF on idle thats not the case. (n/m) - ztunerz 21:46:11 11/17/15 im still using the fpcu so idle may not be affected. - michaell32 (FL) 23:13:19 11/17/15 True, hopefully it doesnt melt :)DW draws more current WOT (n/m) - ztunerz 10:27:32 11/18/15 Congrats on the impressive results! - sfarrah 11:50:43 11/17/15 AWESOME . . . that why I consider you one of the best. (n/m) - toykoz32 14:05:01 11/17/15 great results (n/m) - ZiNnYc 21:04:20 11/17/15 Appreciate the positive responses - thank you (n/m) - ztunerz 22:58:06 11/17/15 GREAT job, good numbers!! - Jason300zxTT 08:28:29 11/18/15 Nice!!!!! New stock turbo record!!!! - NUTTZ(EPTmotorsports) 09:58:41 11/18/15 Very impressive. Congrats!!! (n/m) - TheTwinZ (Peru) 12:29:23 11/19/15 Re: Stock turbos on a VG making 580 whp and 600 ft lbs torque - ouikikazz 12:58:56 11/19/15 It's all about fuel availability. - bartz32tt 16:26:01 11/19/15
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